Curse

Anariel · May 10, 2005, 09:24 PM // 21:24

-Already we have people saying "You suck noobie, noob, i pwn u" which is needless to say not good and uneeded.

I love the ignore feature. It ignores the person's account, which means you will never hear from ANY characters played by this person, ever again. I just wish it was made so that you never have to PvP with anyone that is on your ignore list, ever again. XD

-Already people attempting to scam people out of items

Scams exist because of your own ignorance and oversight. Put scammers on ignore list, and be more careful.

-Already the trade channle is being spammed so badly u cannot see a thing outside of it.

This is something that GW staff needs to address by putting in place an auction house or some kind of player shop system that does not require typing and shouting. WoW has a decent auction system that was good when it wasn't laggy as hell. :P

-Already there are the MUST HAVE ITEMS, and if u dont, u and ur guild sucks

Who cares? "Must have" in a video game is such a ridiculous thing. I'd rather must have my boyfriend by my side every night when I go to sleep. Play for fun; it's a game. If you're the sort of guild that MUST HAVE XYZ, then it's no one else's problem but your own, and you should just go out and get it.

-Already there are Drake Runs, or what ever runs ur doing, comparable to diablo 2's mephesto runs

Why is this a bad thing? Upper BRS runs in WoW, DVC runs in Lineage 2, and Drake runs in GW, they are all but familiar ways and places of PvE hunting that people have found to be beneficial and perhaps some even enjoy, because afterwards they feel they have received some items or done some good for their characters.

-Already Uber l00t wh0ring going on

Believe me, it's nowhere nearly as bad as what could happen, and what has happened in WoW. I am speaking as a veteran of MMORPGs and having been in top, competitive guilds, members of which consider loot to be more important than friendship. As far as I'm concerned, they can be l00t wh0res all they want, and I'll just stay away. ^^

Studio Ghibli · May 10, 2005, 09:25 PM // 21:25

.. compared to other MMORPGs, I really don't see a need to scream.

However, as far as "drake" runs are concerned, perhaps AN should consider a sort of "diminished returns" code where, if the player has so many kills on a monster, then.. well.. diminished returns.

Again, to encourage exploration, to discourage "runs."

I don't see the harm in it though. Some people just like runs.

I like 'em.

Shadowyn · May 10, 2005, 09:30 PM // 21:30

The only response I can think of to your list of complaints is: Welcome to planet Earth.

There are always going to be people who are rude, immature, and in a constant quest for riches and power. Maybe we should debate the drawbacks of gravity, too?

SOT · May 10, 2005, 09:37 PM // 21:37

I'll be brutal about this, because sometimes, shaking a baby is the only method that penetrates a thick skull:

In my short history of playing GW, I have reached nearly lvl 14, seen and heard all the bullshit being talked about to and fro, and all I can say is, all kidding aside, I have seen and heard more infantile, petty, jealous, penis size arguing, I am the authoritative goon here spouting, meaningless and time wasting detritus than IN THE GAME or ANY OTHER place in my entire freaking 26 years of living on this planet.

It is a GAME. For the love of GOD, man

Go outside I guess. Have sex with your spouse. GET A SPOUSE. Find a vacation package that's right for you and LEAVE the laptop at home.

I love this game, but the people in it have driven me nearly to solo-only silence. Drama is for daytime TV. This is guild wars. Start acting like you mean what you say when you "play" this game. SHEESH!

[/off rant, the baby survived to be old enough play guild wars, then died of sheer shellshock from all the mundanity]

Grim_Grom · May 10, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Your making a fuss over nothing. I have met none of the issues that your going on about. Your paying nothing per month, be happy with that. And as said in the post above, there are always people like the ones you describe and they'll be there whether you like it or not.

SOT · May 10, 2005, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by Grim_Grom

Your making a fuss over nothing. I have met none of the issues that your going on about. Your paying nothing per month, be happy with that. And as said in the post above, there are always people like the ones you describe and they'll be there whether you like it or not.

That was my point, as in, stop taking it all so damn serious. I do not care how many people you have in your guild. I care nothing about how long you stay awake playing in PvP. In the end, virtually, literally, LOGICALLY, it's all mortal coil gone for good. Have fun losing it, and stop wasting it bitching and moaning on a forum here, where, to be honest, results are far and few between

Welcome to planet of the APES

sulos · May 10, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by SOT

heard all the bullshit being talked about to and fro, and all I can say is, all kidding aside, I have seen and heard more infantile, petty, jealous, penis size arguing

wow, that is so funny yet so true. i must say i haven't encountered the "your a noob so i will keep messaging you to tell you that you are noob" yet so i can't say that gw is going the wrong direction. but if you had admins and all that stuff it would do you no good, it happened to me in lineage 2 and the gm's did nothing. gw has an ignore list so you can use that, in terms of items take this example. the game has been out for under a month and people are crying for fur squares, the next update is changing that. in my opinion anet is doing a great job with gw and i believe i ripped them off when i purchased it. keep up the great work anet!!

Castanza · May 11, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17

I haven't been playing mmorpg's for that long but i did play wow for a good while, and i would have to say that this game has got WOW beat when it comes to avoiding annoying people, being able to turn off chat filters is great, but if there is someone abusing the general chat and you want to talk to other players you can just switch districts, there is always a decent number of people in another district. Also if one player is bothering you there is always the ignore feature (yeah i guess WOW had that too), and of course lets not forget that the fighting areas are all instanced. I hated playing WOW with my priest, every 10 min somone would invite me to their guild or their group or whatever and i was just trying to do some quests

. Anyway GW rocks, i love this game

, the only suggestion i would have is to add a chat filter for that would be solely for looking for group, i think that might make it easier to find a group for quests.

=HT=Ingram · May 11, 2005, 08:18 AM // 08:18

I turn off the trading script checkmark. its not usefull. the only thing that gets me is people NOT using the trading script. Anymore I just have party and guild checked so I dont have to see anyone elses bellyaching or useless trading scams... Thats one Great thing in GW. if you dont want to see it you got the option to turn that garbage off.. that is wonderful..

Ishamael Sedai · May 11, 2005, 10:31 AM // 10:31

umm... as someone who plays Halo 2 on xbox this community is excellent

Studio Ghibli · May 11, 2005, 10:31 AM // 10:31

You know, sometimes I'll run into people who'll complain about how men/women suck in relationships--and when you ask them how many people they've dated, they'll give some number...

Conversation goes something like this.

Person1: Man, dating men/women sucks.
Me: Why's that?
Person1: They're just awful.
Me: How many men/women have you dated?
Person: X+5!
Me: You recognize that, out of all those relationships, the only common factor was YOU?

In something related...

I've yet to run into any morons.

I like my guild.

Manderlock · May 11, 2005, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by Studio Ghibli

You know, sometimes I'll run into people who'll complain about how men/women suck in relationships--and when you ask them how many people they've dated, they'll give some number...

Conversation goes something like this.

Person1: Man, dating men/women sucks.
Me: Why's that?
Person1: They're just awful.
Me: How many men/women have you dated?
Person: X+5!
Me: You recognize that, out of all those relationships, the only common factor was YOU?

In something related...

I've yet to run into any morons.

I like my guild.

Hahaha, this is quite true.

Dumb Quixote · May 11, 2005, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I wonder if you can tell me of any Triple A titles who use volunteer moderators. I'm really curious, because from what I've noted, most companies are going away from volunteers completely.

The rights of moderation are very powerful, and I would be hesitant to turn that over to volunteers. After all, you see a scandal every few months whether on charges of, let's see, irresponsibility, favourtism, maliciousness, extortion, bribe-taking, spite, cheating, hacking, misjudgment, or just plain meanness.

That's not to say that even 1% of volunteers have ever misbehaved. But when there are some classic examples of it with which gamers are quite familiar, it does tend to make team leaders like myself very hesitant to even consider such a possibility.

I'd like to learn more, though, if some of you have knowledge of the subject.

I'll be the first to sign the petition to keep out 'volunteer moderators'. I've never met one that wasn't sure they were always right. And seldom with the autonomous perspective necessary to provide value to the game.

Ramus · May 11, 2005, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I wonder if you can tell me of any Triple A titles who use volunteer moderators. I'm really curious, because from what I've noted, most companies are going away from volunteers completely.

The rights of moderation are very powerful, and I would be hesitant to turn that over to volunteers. After all, you see a scandal every few months whether on charges of, let's see, irresponsibility, favourtism, maliciousness, extortion, bribe-taking, spite, cheating, hacking, misjudgment, or just plain meanness.

That's not to say that even 1% of volunteers have ever misbehaved. But when there are some classic examples of it with which gamers are quite familiar, it does tend to make team leaders like myself very hesitant to even consider such a possibility.

I'd like to learn more, though, if some of you have knowledge of the subject.

I agree with most of that except for one occasion, and that was Anarchy Online. They had a great team of volunteers and never had any troubles becauase of how it was run/moderated.

exaion · May 11, 2005, 07:35 PM // 19:35

What I think would be interesting is to allow guilds to apply to run districts. This way there would be Guild Moderated districts, and unmoderated districts. The guild would be given a few limited responsibilities, such as banning an account from their districts. It would be an interesting deterent.

Ristaron · May 11, 2005, 07:45 PM // 19:45

In the few weeks of guild wars that I have played, I have only been in one argument -- and you can't even call it an argument.
More of me telling some little punk to stop advertising trades in the global channel. It was this little nerd who then began talking shit like "you're probably just some nerd at his computer with no friends why don't you ---- off..." and it went on for several minutes. I ignored him for a bit, just let his little bitchiness irritate everyone else in the district and enjoy watching them all tell him to "shut the ---- up". I eventually got tired of it and switched districts.
After five minutes I started getting whispers from him and his little friends (and by friends I mean one other person), that's when I told him to go get bent and blocked them both. Problem solved.

I especially loved how he at one point challenged me to a fight in one of the arenas, boasting that he was level 9 and could kick my ass. It made me laugh so hard when I informed him I was level 17 and he couldn't beat me even if I wasn't wearing armour.

Cordub · May 11, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51

This one is simple, DONT PLAY. The questing area is your own map and you dont have to have the channels up. The only time is in town, and people are rude even in the real world. If you would get out some time and stop playing all those games and then try rubbin them in your faces like your some kind of MMO god. You dont like the players Leave you mentioned tons of other games you have played go there. I thought we left all the Whinners in WoW Eq2 guess not. So my adv to you dont like the channels quit the channels or leave the game. If you cant learn to ignore a few lines of text that pop up once in awhile. Then you have bigger problems then some spaming racial or hateful things in chat. GET A LIFE and learn what real people are like, and stop being a Damn baby

Tkmaster · May 11, 2005, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by Phauran

Now, I am a huge online RPG player, from diablo 2 LoD to NWN SWG EQ and WoW, just to name a few, i have been with these games since launch. Some of them turned out to be great, some not so............

But right now to compare GW to something, it would be diablo II LoD and thats exactly not what we want,

Similarities

The main reason i felt compelled to write this thread is racist and immature kids, no one needs people spamming racial slurs or any swearing at all. This is the reason i wish you had to pay per month, doing that cuts out 90% of the racial and swearing spammers.

-Already we have people saying "You suck noobie, noob, i pwn u" which is needless to say not good and uneeded.
-Already people attempting to scam people out of items
-Already the trade channle is being spammed so badly u cannot see a thing outside of it.
-Already there are the MUST HAVE ITEMS, and if u dont, u and ur guild sucks
-Already there are Drake Runs, or what ever runs ur doing, comparable to diablo 2's mephesto runs
-Already Uber l00t wh0ring going on

Diffrences

-No hacks or duping have surfaced yet, but they are sure to come.

So please do your best to make the game world as nice and as respectful as you can.

If you agree or disagree with this post, tell me, i like the responces.

1. i was on wow and i seen people saying you suck etc... Having a pay per month system wont really stop that, (it just limits who will be able to play the game)

2. Scamming also can happen in WoW
3. same thing with the trade channel...

Most of those problems arnt really remedied by a pay per month system... as there will always be people on it who would do that stuff...

Like mmorpgs ncsoft will punish those who does something too inappropriate

JDock · May 11, 2005, 07:57 PM // 19:57

People are just stupid -.- and especially online when they are masked behind their internet, they can sit back and be as idiotic and rude as they want. It's just the way it is.

P A X · May 11, 2005, 11:00 PM // 23:00

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Originally Posted by BChan

I remember back in the day when UO started its volunteer councilour and gm system (before it went to EA games and went to the crapper).

I resent this statement...to the best of my recollection, UO was created by EA. EA obtained the Ultima series before UO was designed/released, assuming I haven't gone insane. Perhaps I'm wrong, but until proven this way, I will disagree with you.

P.S. Sorry if someone's already stated this, I got too upset before I could finish reading the rest of the posts.

And to the topic starter, this behavior will always happen. You get used to it, and may even participate in it. I remember moving from Diablo II to Diablo II: LOD, where the trade channels were not just full, they were impossible to read. But, soon enough, I was in there daily, able to see items and trade them without being bothered by the amount of spamming and such. This is something that happens in all online games, and everyone eventually adjusts to it.

One final note:
The direction this game is going is off the main trail. In a very good way. This game is paving the way for games in the future; I only hope the rest of the companies see the newly paved path and don't remain on their crappy, pothole filled "road" of fees and other nonsense that a paying customer should not have to deal with.

P.P.S. Sorry this post is so long, I didn't mean for it to be :P